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(H. Op R Mr. DODDRIDGE would not consent.
He should not have made the objection to the second readMr. BUCHANAN addressed the House. lle said the ing, but that he might subject the bill to debate, intending measure proposed was one of great importance, and he himself fully to discuss it. wished to give an opportunity for members of the House Mr. RAMSEY asked how this bill came to be reported. to express their opinions on it ireely and fully, and that was there any petition or any instruction to the committheir remarks miglit be sent to the people. He was op- tee to bring this subject now before the House? If the posed to hasty legislation on important matters; but if the people of the United States do not ask us to do this thing, gentleman from Virginia would withdraw his opposition said he, we ought not to take it up at all. to the second reading, he would move to postpone the Mr. DANIEL said that the Judiciary committee had consideration of the bill to Tuesday next. Such a mo- been instructed, by a special resolution, to inquire into tion, be presumed, would not be in order now.
the expediency of repealing or modifying the 25th secThe SPEAKER--No. The Chair will read the rule of tion of the judiciary act; and, on considering the subject, the House, for the information of gentlemen.
they had come to the resolution that it ought to be re[The SPEAKER here read the rule, as follows:] pealed. Mr. D. had no objection to the proposed post
The first reading of a bill shall be for information; ponement for a week, by which time every member and, if opposition be made to it, the question shall be, would be prepared to express his opinion upon it, he • Shall this bill be rejected?! If no opposition be made, supposed. or if the question to reject be negatived, the bill shall go Mr. ARCHER said, if there was a majority of the to its second reading without a question.”
House disposed obtain a decision of this question, they Mr. DODDRIDGE now consented to ithdraw his op-could, at any time, get at it by going into a Committee of position.
the Whole on the state of the Union, should it be referMr. BATES inquired whether, if the consideration of red, as he thought it ought to be, to that committee, the bill was postponed to Tuesday next, it could then be where it could be more freely discussed than in the House. considered in Committee of the Whole.
This mode of disposing of the bill, he thought, was better The SPEAKER said, that, after the bill had been read suited also to the gravity and importance of the question, a second time, it could go to a Committee of the whole, than the other mode proposed. or be otherwise disposed of, as the llouse might clirect. Mr. MARTIN said he should not have risen again, but
Mr. MARTIN said, the gentleman from Pennsylvania that the gentlemen from Virginia and Pennsylvania seemed had expressed his willingness to have a free and full dis- to think that he was disposed to avoid a decision upon the cussion of the subject, and the gentleman from Virginia bill at the present session. Mr. M. said he had no such had no desire to smother it. He [Mr. M.] had been listen- wish. But he could not but say that it was a little reing for reasons why the bill should not take the ordinary markable that a bill of this importance should be disposed course, but had heard nonc. The bill was one of vast of in a mode different from the treatment of any other importance, and ho was also in favor of a free and full bill since he had had a scat on this floor. Was this the discussion. He should be sorry that the bill should take ordinary mode in which bills were opposed? The gena course to prevent his hearing the views of gentlemen tleman from Virginia had said that he had made the moon the subject; and he was not sure that he should not tion to reject this bill, because it was a debatable one. take part in a liscussion himself. He did not intend now, But certainly all would admit that, in Committee of the however, to commit himself.
Whole, the discussion would be more full, more free, Mr. BUCIIANAN said he huul no disposition, on this or and over a wider field. If the opinion entertained by the any other occasion, to prevent the freest discussion of the gentleman from Virginia, on this subject, was common matter before the House. It was for the purpose of as- to a majority of the House, he could at any time obtain suring himself, on the contrary, that a question should be a vote to go into committee upon it. The gentleman taken on this bill at the present session, that he had pro-shakes his head: but he can, at any time, move to go into posed its postponement to this day week. It would thus committee on the state of the Union, because such a mocome up for consideration, as business of course, on that tion has preference over any other. On the other hand, day. The bill will be, on that day, precisely in the situa- the advocates of the bill will not shrink from the investion in which it is at this moment. It will stand higher tigation of its object. They have no desire to avoid a on the calendar than it would do were we now to refer decision upon it, and will unite with its opponents in it to a Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union. bringing it on. If, on that day, it should be thought an expedient course, Mr. WICKLIFFE said that, as oue member of the the bill can then be referred to a Committee of the Whole House, he should be very much gratified to have this subon the state of the Union, as well as now. We all know ject discussed. But he wished to see the bill placed in that there are many subjects referred to the Committee of such a situation as to allow of an amendment being offered the Whole on the state of the Union, and we know that to it, for a modification of the 25th section of the old law, there is a vast mass of lumber there too. If this subject which he should prefer to a total repeal of it. Let the bill Were referred to that committee, Mr. B. said, such an ex- be read a second time, said he, and then be postponed. pression of the opinion of this House upon it, as is due to When it should be again taken up, it would then be open its importance, and must be expected by the nation, would to amendinent. not be obtained at the present session.
Mr. DODDRIDGE said that he considered the mea. Mr. STORRS, of New York, asked whether the ques- sure proposed by this bill to be of as much importance as tion upon the second reading or rejection of a bill was if it were a proposition to repeal the Union of these States; not a question open to discussion. (The SPEAKER an- and for that reason he could not, with his consent, suffer swered that it was.] If so, said Mr. S., then the gentle-it to take the course of an ordinary bill. If the House inan from South Carolina, and all others, would have as should overrule the proposition of the gentleman from full opportunity as they desired to debate it, without re- Pennsylvania, Mr. D. said he should then renew opposiferring it to a Committee of the Whole.
tion to the second reading of the bill. Mr. DODDRIDGE said that his objection to the second Mr. ELLSWORTH said that he should regret any reading of the bill was prompted by the same motives as delay by this House of a decision upon a question so mohad influenced the course of the gentleman from Penn- mentous as this. It was because of its overwhelming sylvania, viz. that he might have it in his power to debate magnitude that he would have it acted upon forthwith. He and decide upon this bill. He gave way only to allow of did not believe that there was a gentleman within hearing the motion for postponement, and for no other purpose of his voice, who had, at this moment, any doubt upon
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Judge Peck:-Duties on Iron.--Militia of the District.
[Jan. 26, 1831.
It was well
his own mind as to what his vote would be on this ques. Committee on Manufactures was opposed to a reduction tion. It seemed desirable to him, in every view, that this of the duties, not only upon iron, but upon every other question should be at once decided.
article of import. Iron, he said, was an article of univerMr. JOHNSON, of Kentucky, said he should vote in sal use and consumption; and when it was proposed to favor of postponement.
reduce the tax upon it, all the people were interested, and (Here the hour for morning business expired.] entitled to be heard without prejudice upon the subject.
By leave of the House, Mr. BUCHANAN then presented Seeing that the Committee on Manufactures had prejudgthe report of the minority of the Judiciary committee sed the case, he moved to reconsider the vote referring against the measure proposed, and that, together with the the petition to that committee, in order that it might be report of the majority of the committee, were ordered to referred to the Committee of Ways and Means. be printed.
Mr. RAMSEY expressed his hope that the proposition JUDGE PECK.
would not be reconsidered. The petition had gone to The hour of twelve was here announced by the Chair, the proper committee, raised for the espress purpose
of and the House, in Committee of the Whole, Mr. Mantin taking cognizance of matters of this kind. The gentieat its head, proceeded to attend the high court of im- man from North Carolina had said it was wrong to refer peachment. Having returned, the committee reported a memorial upon any subject to a committee that had preprogress; and
judged the case. Allow me to say, said Mr. R., that the The House adjourned.
Committee of Ways and Means has as much prejudged
the case as the Committee on Manufactures. I cannot WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 26.
consent that this petition shall take any other direction
than that which has already been given to it. The ComDUTIES ON IRON.
mittee on Manufactures is established by rule, and apThe SPEAKER presented a memorial of citizens of the pointed by the Speaker expressly to take cognizance of city and county of Philadelphia--mechanics, employed in such questions. The Committee of Ways and Means is various branches of the manufacture of iron, viz. 'stean established and appointed to devise the ways and means engine makers, anchor and chain smiths, shipsinitlis, ma- of bringing money into the treasury; and I have always chinists, founders, hardware manufacturers, edge tool thought it not the proper committee to send questions of makers, locksmiths, coach and wagon smiths, farriers, this kind to. The Comunittee of Ways and Means ought and blacksmiths, praying that such a modification of the not to take cognizance of such matters, unless specially existing tariff of duties on iron, as therein set forth, may sent to them; and, when so sent, they ought to move be adopted; which memorial was, on motion, referred to to be discharged from them, as not being within their the Committee on Manufactures.
Mr. McDUFFIE (chairman of the Committee of Ways MILITIA OF THE DISTRICT.
and Means) said that, in reference to the matter of preMr. THOMPSON, of Georgia, from the Committee on judging the question, the two committees referred to the Militia, reported a bill " for the better organization were upon precisely the same footing: of the militia of the District of Colunibia;" which was known, he said, that the Committee of Ways and Means twice read.
take one view of this subject, the Committee on ManuMr. THOMPSON then said that this bill was, he be- factures another. He understood the object of the holieved, of an unexceptionable nature, and its provisions norable mover, however, to be, that the matter of the were much needed by the people of this District. Among petition should be fairly investigated. He understood, other things, it proposes to authorize the Secretary of moreover, that one of the petitioners, perhaps one of the War to select places of depot for the preservation of the most intelligent practical mechanics in the United States, arms of the United States, placed in the hands of the is now here, with materials and evidence prepared to susmilitia, and to employ persons to take care of the same; vial should be referred. All that Mr. McD. desired to
tain his views before any committee to whom the memobut for these purposes it proposes no direct appropriation, though probably some expense might be the consequence understand, therefore, was, whether the Committee on Under these circumstances, Mr. T. inquired of the Speak - Manufactures would give a fair hearing to the memorialer whether the rules of the House would require that the ists. If they would, he had no objection to the subject bill should go through a Committee of the whole. [The going to that committee. SPEAKER answered in the negative.] It was considered
Mr. MALLARY (chairman of the Committee on Maso important that something should be done on this sub- nufactures) referred to the rules of the House for the ject, Mr. T. said, that he wished to have the bill go to a appointing of committees, and the specification of their third reading without delay. The bill of the last session duties. He remarked, however, that, when particular on this subject contained some provisions which gave subjects were referred to committees, they might be in some little disquietude to some of the citizens. A con
favor of a part of them, and have strong objections to vention of officers of the militia had, however, examined other portions. The Speaker, in the appointment of this bill, and some alterations had been made, but he committees, could not always know the sentiments of menthought not material ones, which made the bill more bers, nor could he tell to what particular decision they acceptable to the people. He moved that the bill be would come on the matters referred to their consideraengrossed, and ordered to be read a third time.
The question seemed to be, what was the proper After a suggestion from the Chair, Mr. T. waived his duties to be performed by the Committee on Manufacmotion, and the bill was made the special order of the day tures. "He [Mr. M.] was not disposed to prejudge the for Monday next, when the question will be upon order- present case; he would say, nevertheless, that all matters ing it to be engrossed.
referred to the committee of which he had the honor to
be chairman, would receive the undivided attention of DUTIES ON IRON.
that committee; and he should take great pleasure, both Mr. SPEIGHT, of North Carolina, adverting to a me- as chairman of the committee and as a member of the morial against the duty on iron, which had been this llouse, if the subject now under consideration was refer morning referred to the Committee on Manufactures
, and red to that committee, in directing his attention to it, and alluding to the right of the people to petition this House, giving it the fullest possible investigation. implying a right to a hearing upon their petition, said, that Mr. MILLER, of Pennsylvania, made a few observait was a well-known fact that a large proportion of the tions against the reconsideration. He had no doubt, when
Jan. 27, 1831.]
Compensation of Members.--Judge Peck.
[H. or R.
the House was disposed to act upon the subject, it would
THURSDAY, JANUARY 27. do so without considering whether any proposition con
COMPENSATION OF MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. cerning it came from one committee or another. For himself, he was opposed to the measure proposed, by The House then resumed the consideration of the joint whatever committee it might be recommended; and he resolution “relative to the pay of members of Congress," still continued to think that the Committee on Manufilc- together with the motion to recommit the resolution to tures was the committee to which it had been properly the Committee on Public Expenditures, with certain inreferred.
structions. Mr. CAMBRELENG, of New York, said, after the de The yeas and nay's were yesterday called for by Mr. claration made by the gentleman at the head of the Com- HOFFMAN, on the question; but this day the House refusmittee on Manufactures, that the subject would be fully ed to order them. investigated before that committee, he hoped the gen After some discussion, the previous question was detleman from North Carolina would withdraw his motion. manded, and the demand was sustained by the House. This, Mr. C. said, was one of the most important sub- [The effect of the previous question was to supersede jects ever presented to this House; and a proper investi- the motion for recommitment with instructions, and bring gation into it would show how imperfect is this tariff of the question directly before the House on the passage of ours, which had been said to be one of the most perfect the joint resolution. ) in the world. These petitioners tell you that they are The main question being put in the following form: taxed twice the value of their manufacture, and that they shall the joint resolution pass?" it was determined in must be prostrated unless they get some relief from you. the affirmative, as follows: It is thus seen low important is this inquiry.
YEAS.--Messrs. Alexander, Allen, Alston, Anderson, Mr. HUNTINGTON, of Connecticut, said that this was Angel, Armstrong, Arnold, Noyes Barber, Barnwell, not the time to determine whether the complaint of the Bartley, Bates, Baylor, Beekman, J. Blair, Bockee, Boon, memorialists be or be not well founded. But it would be Borst, Bouldin, Brodhe:ud, Brown, Burges, Butman, Carecollected that at the commencement of the session this hoo:), Cambreleng, Campbell, Carson, Chandler, Chilwhole subject had been referred to the standing Commit- ton, Claiborne, Clay, Condict, Conner, Cooper, Cowles, tee on Manufactures, from whom the effect of the pro- Craig, Crane, Crawford, Crockett, Creighton, Crocheposed reference to another committee would be to take ron, Daniel, Davenport, W. R. Davis, Deberry, Denny, it away. This, he thought, was not a usual if a deco-Desha, De Witt, Dickinson, Doddridge, Dorsey, Drarous procedure. The subject would, lie had no doubt, per, Drayton, Duncan, Dwight, Eager, Earll, Ellsworth, receive, before the standing committee, a full and fair G. Evans, Horace Everett, Findlay, Finch, Ford, Forward, investigation.
Foster, Fry, Gordon, Green, Hall, Hammons, Harvey, Mr. J. S. BARBOUR, of Virginia, (one of the mem- Hawkins, Haynes, Hodges, Holland, Iloffman, Hubbard, bers of the Committee on Manufactures,) took this occa- Hunt, Huntington, Ihrie, Ingersoll, Thomas Irwin, Jarsion to say that, as was known to the House, a report had vis, R. M. Johnson, Cave Johnson, Kendall, Kennon, been made from that committee, and a counter report had Kincail, Perkins King, Lamar, Lea, Leavitt, Lecompte, been presented by the minority. With the greatest re- Lent, Letcher, Loyall, Lumpkin, Lyon, Magee, Mallary, spect for the gentlemen composing these two divisions of Martindale, Martin, Thomas Maxwell, Lewis Maxwell
, the committee, he begged leave here to say that he dis- McCreery, McCoy, Mercer, Mitchell, Monell, Muhlensented both from the majority and the minority. berg, Nuckolls, Overton, Pettis, Polk, Potter, Powers,
Mr. SPEIGHT then rose, and, in consequence of what Ramsey, Rencher, Richardson, Roane, Russel, Scott, had fallen from the members of the Committee on Manu- William B. Shepard, Aug. H. Shepperd, Shields, Sill, factures, withdrew his motion for reconsideration. Smith, Speight, Ambrose Spencer, Richard Spencer,
Stanbery, Standefer, Sterigere, Stephens, William. L. COMPENSATION OF MEMBERS:
Storrs, Strong, Swann, Swift, Taliaferro, Taylor, Test, The House then resumed the consideration of the joint Wiley Thompson, J. Thomson, Tracy, Trezvant, Tucker, resolution “relative to the pay of members of Congress;" Vance, Varnum, Verplanck, Wayne, Weeks, Whittlesey, together with the instructions proposed to be sent to the C. P. White, Wickliffe, Wilde, Williams, Wilson, WinCommittee on Public Expenditures when that resolution gate, Yancey, Young:--159. was last under consideration.
NAYS.--Messrs. John S, Barbour, Coleman, CrowninMr. SUTHERLAND said a few words in explanation shield, Edward Everett, Gaither, Gorham, Grennell, of what had fallen from himn on a preceding day; when Gurley, Hinds, Hughes, Leiper, Miller, Norton, Patton,
Mr. HALL proposed a modification of the instructions, Pierson, Rose, Sprigg, Henry R. Storrs, Sutherland, Vinby adding to them a proviso that the bill, as proposed, ton, Exlward D. White.--21. should not have a retroactive operation.
So the resolution was passed, and sent to the Senate Mr. HOFFMAN was opposed to the recommitment of for concurrence, in the following form: the resolution, and called for the yeas and nays on the • Resolved by the Senate und Ilouse of Representatives, question.
That the rules of each House shall be so amended as that (Here the hour for morning business expired.) it shall be the imperative duty of the Secretary of the
On motion of Mr. SPENCER, of New York, three thou- Senate and Sergeant-at-arins of the House of Represensand additional copies of the report of the Secretary of tatives to ascertain, at the end of every session of Congress, the Treasury on the subject of the cultivation of sugar from each member of Congress, or delegate from a terricane, and the manufacture of brown sugar, recently trans- tory, the number of days which he may have been absent mitted to Congress, were ordered to be printed. from, and, not in attendance upon, the business of the JUDGE PECK.
House; and in settling the accounts of the Senators, mem
bers, and delegates, there shall be deducted from the The House then resolved.itself into a Committee of the account, or amount of pay for each session, at the rate of Whole, Mr. Martin in the chair, and proceeded to at- eight dollars per day for every day any member of either tend the trial before the high court of impeachment. House, or delegate, shall have been absent, except by Having returneul, the committee reporteil progress; and order, on business of the House to which he belongs, or The House adjourned.
in consequence of sickness."
H. or R.] Lands between Ludlow and Roberts' lines.---Surplus Revenue.--Expenses of Impeachment. (Jan. 28, 1831.
LANDS BETWEEN LUDLOW & ROBERTS' LINES. of the Committee on the Judiciary, relative to repealing The House then, on motion of Mr. STERIGERE, went which motion lies one day.
the twenty-fifth section of the judiciary law of 1789; into Committee of the Whole, Mr. Howand in the chair, and took up the bill from the Senate, to “ amend
THE JUDICIARY. an act to quiet the title of certain purchasers of lands between the lines of Ludlow and Roberts, in the State of
Mr. LECOMPTE submitted the following: together with certain amendments proposed by structed to inquire into the expediency of amending the
Resolved, That the Committee on the Judiciary be in. the Committee on Private Land Claims.
[This subject has been long before Congress, and the constitution of the United States, so that the judges of the debate on the merits of the case repeatedly published in Supreme Court and of the inferior courts shall hold their the Intelligencer. General McArthur and Philip Dod- respective offices for a term of years. dridge, as agents for others, were the owners of certain
Mr. WHITTLESEY demanded the question of consilands between the lines of Ludlow and Roberts, in the deration, and
Mr. VANCE called for the yeas and nays on the quesState of Ohio. These lands had been sold to other indi
tion. viduals by the United States, believing them to be a part of the national domain, and the proceeds were paid into
They were ordered by the House, and, being taken, the treasury. Under this stute of things, Doddridge had stood as follows: commenced suit against the purchasers, and the United
YEAS.---Messrs. Alexander, Allen, Alston, Angel, BayStates made themselves defendants in the case.
In the lor, Bell, James Blair, John Blair, Boon, Cambreleng, Supreme Court, a decision was made in favor of Dod- Carson, Chandler, Chilton, Claiborne, Conner, Croche dridge. After that decision, Congress passed an act for ron, Warren R. Davis, Desha, De Witt, Earll, Findlay, the survey of the lands, and authorizing the appointment Foster: Fry, Gordon, Hall, Halsey, Harvey, Haynes
, of commissioners to appraise their value.
when their Hinds, Thomas Irwin, Jarvis, Cave Johnson, Perkins report was made, the President of the United States was
King, Adam King, Lamar, Lea, Leavitt, Lecompte, Lewis, authorized to treat with McArthur and Dodelridge for a Lumpkin; McCreery, McCoy, Miller, Nuckolls, Pettis, settlement of their claims, in order to quiet the titles of Potter, Richardson, Roane, Scott, Shields, Standefer, Stethose who had purchased from the United States.
rigere, Wiley Thompson, John Thomson, Tucker, Wayne,
McArthur agreed to receive for his lands the valuation fixed by
Wecks, Wickliffe, Yancey.--61. the appraisers. Doddridge demanded the same sum,
NAYS.--Messrs. Anderson, Archer, Armstrong, Arwith interest
, that had been paid into the treasury. An nold, Noyes Barber, John S. Barbour, Barnwell, Barrinact had passed Congress, at the last session, appropriating ger, Bartley, Beekman, Bouldin, Brodhead, Brown, a sum of money for quieting these titles; and the bill at Burges, Butman, Cahoon, Clay, Condict, Cooper, Coulpresent reported was to make a further appropriation, to ter, Cowles, Craig; Crane, Crawford, Crockett, Creighthe use of Mr. Doddridge, for one of the surveys, which ton, Crowninshieid, Davenport, John Davis, Deberry, he had already ceded to the United States, but for which Denny, Doddridge, Dorsey, Draper, Drayton, Duncan, the act before named did not make sufficient compensation.] Edward Everett, Horace Everett, Finch, Forward, Gil
Dwight, Eager, Ellsworth, George Evans, Joshua Evans, A debate of some duration took place between Messrs. STERIGERE, MCCOY, WICKLIFFE, VINTON, and more; Gorham, Green, Grennell, Hemphill
, Hodges, PETTIS. It consisted chiefly, however, of explanations, Lolland, Hoffman, Howard, Ilughes, Hunt, Huntington, and a statement of the principles on which the bill before thrie, Ingersoll, Johns, Kendall
, Kennon, Kincaid, Leiper, the House was founded. Mr. STERIGERE moved that well, Lewis Maxweli, McDuffie, McIntire, Mitchell, Mo
Lent, Loyall, Mallary, Martindale, Martin, Thomas Maxthe proposed amendments be rejected. Mr. TREZVANT had risen to speak, when
nell, Muhlenberg, Norton, Patton, Pearce, Pierson, Polk, A message was received from the Senate.
Ramsey, Reed, Rose, Russel, Sanford, Wm. B. Sheparit, The SPEAKER immediately took the chair, and the Aug. !!. Shepperd, Sill, Smith, Speight, Ambrose SpenSecretary of the Senate announced that that body was Storrs, Strong, Sutherland, Swann, Swift, Taylor, Test,
cer, Richard Spencer, Stanbery, H. R. Storrs, W. L. now sitting as a high court of impeachment.
Trezvant, Vance, Varnum, Verplanck, Vinton, Washing JUDGE PECK.
ton, Whitilesey, C. P. White, E. D. White, Wilde, WilThe House then went into a Committee of the whole, liams, Wilson, Wingate, Young.--115. Mr. Martin in the chair, and proceeded to the Senate So the House refused to consider the resolution. chamber, to attend the high court of impeachment sit
EXPENSES OF THE IMPEACHMENT. ting for the trial of Judge Peck. Having returned, and reported progress,
Mr. ELLSWORTH stated that the witnesses attending The House again resumed, in Committee of the whole, on the trial of Judge Peck could not be discharged unul the bill which was before that committee in the morning they were paid. It was highly necessary, therefore, that relative to lands between Ludlow and Roberts' lines: with the House should act upon the bill which he had reported out continuing the debate, the committee rose, and report this morning; and he moved to suspend the consideration ed progress, and had leave to sit again.
of any other business on the table, for the purpose of
taking up the bill to which he referred. , FRIDAY, JANUARY 28.
The motion was agreed to, and the House went into SURPLUS REVENUE.
Committee of the Whole, Mr. Dwight in the chair,
and took up the bill “making provision for the compenMr. POLK, from the select cominittee to which was sation of the witnesses, and other expenses attending the referred so much of the message of the President of the trial of Judge Peck,” together with the amendments reUnited States, at the commencement of the session, as ported by the Committee on the Judiciary. relates to the distribution of the surplus revenue, made a report, (see Appendix;] which was ordered to lie on the Senate's bill, amounted to $12,000; by the proposed
[The gross sum proposed to be appropriated by the table.
amendments, that amount was increased to $13,500.) A motion was made to print 6,000 copies of the report; Mr. POLK said, the bill provided for the compensation which motion lies one day on the table. Mr. WHITE, of New York, moved for the printing of and the respondent. In all State prosccutions, the defend.
of the witnesses, both on the part of the United States 3,900 copies of the reports of the majority and minority ant always paid his own witnesses, and he thought thie
Jan. 29, 1831.] Lands between Ludlow and Roberts' lines.--Judge Peck.-- The Judiciary.--Brown Sugar. [H. of R. United States would do enough to compensate the wit The demand was 'sustained by the House-yeas 81, nesses on the part of the prosecution. · He requested pays 69. information as to what had been the usage in former cases The question was then put, “Shall the main question of impeachment under this Government.
be now put?" Mr. ELLSWORTH replied that, in the case of Judge And it was determined in the affirmative-yeas 75, Chase, the United States had paid the witnesses on both nays 68. sides. He was not positive as to the other cases.
He Mr. CRAWFORD moved for a call of the House-would remark, that it would tend to the utter ruin of any which motion prevailed; when it was ascertained that individual brought before the Senate of the United States there were one hundred and seventy-one members present. for trial, if he were to be compelled to compensate his Mr. MERCER then moved to dispense with further own witnesses. It was right and proper that the Govern- proceedings in the call; but the motion was negatived.
ment should pay all the witnesses attending trials of im The names of absentees on the first call were then calllong peachments; and whether Judge Peck should or should ed over a second time. Several of them answered to
not be cleared, it was obvious that, if he were to be com- their names, and excuses were made for others; one hunpelled to pay his witnesses, he was a ruined man. dred and eighty-three members were now ascertained to
Mr. CARSON was in favor of the bill as proposed to be be present. amended. He remarked, that if a precedent was now The doors were then closed; whien,
established, that the United States were not to pay wit On motion of Mr. DWIGHT, further proceedings in ļ nesses on behalf of the persons accused in trials of im- the call were suspended. * peachment, no future prosecution would take place, The main question was then put, viz. “Shall the bill
however aggravated might be the offence committed. No be rejected?" man would undertake it. There was no analogy between And it was determined in the affirmative, as follows: the ordinary trials in the States and a trial in the Senate YEAS.- Messrs. Anderson, Armstrong, Arnold, Bailey, of the United States. In the latter, witnesses had gene. Noyes Barber, John S. Barbour, Barringer, Bartley,
rally to be brought from a distance, often very great, as Bates, Baylor, Beekman, John Blair, Bockee, Boon, Borst, is in the present case, and their detention here was both Brodhead, Brown, Buchanan, Burges, Butman, Cahoon,
long and expensive. What possible chance was there, Chilton, Clark, Condict, Cooper, Coulter, Cowles, Craig, he would ask, that an individual could clear himself of an Crane, Crawford, Crockett, Creighton, Crocheron, Crownalleged crime, if he was obliged to pay his own witnesses? inshield, John Davis, Deberry, Denny, De Witt, DickinNo man could clear himself, for no man could afford the soir
, Doddridge, Dorsey, Drayton, Dwight, Eager, Earll, i expense. In his opinion, for the United States to refuse Ellsworth, G. Evans, Joshua Evans, Edward Everett,
to pay witnesses in trials of the kind referred to, would Findlay, Finch, Forward, Fry, Gilmore, Gorham, Green, en e amount to a positive denial of justice, &c.
Grennell, Gurley, Halsey, Ilemphill, Horges, Holland, The question was now demanded; and, being put on Hoffman, Howard, Hubbard, Hughes, Hunt, Huntington, the amendments offered by the Judiciary committee, they thrie, Ingersoll, Thomas Irwin, William W. Irvin, Johns, were agreed to.
Cave Johnson, Kendall, Kennon, Kincaid, Perkins King, The committee then rose, and reported the bill as Adam King, Leavitt, Leiper, Lent, Letcher, Magee, amended; the amendments were agreed to, and the bill Mallary, Martindale, Lewis Maxwell, McCreery, McDufordered to be read a third time to-morrow.
fie, McIntire, Mercer, Miller, Mitchell, Monell, MuhlenLANDS BETWEEN LUDLOW & ROBERTS' LINES. Iberg, Norton, Pearce, Pierson, Powers, Reed, Richard
The House then resumed, in Committee of the Whole, son, Rose, Russel, Sanford, Scott, William B. Shepard, the bill “ to amend the act to quiet tie title of purchasers Augustine H. Shepperd, Shields, Sill, Speight, Ambrose, of the public lands between the lines of Ludlow and Rod Spencer, Richard Spencer, Sprigg, Standefer, Sterigere, berts, in the State of Ohio,” Mr. Howard in the chair. Henry R. Storrs, William L. Storrs, Strong, Sutherland,
Some further conversation took place between Messrs. Swann, Swift, Taylor, Test, J. Thomson, Vance, VarTREZVANT, WICKLIFFE, and' VINTON, when the num, Verplanck, Vinton, Washington, Weeks, Whittle. amendments proposed by the Committee on Private Land sey, C. P. White, Edward D. White, Williams, Wilson, Claims were disagreed to, and the committee rose, and re
NĂYS.--Messrs. Alexander, Allen, Alston, Angel, ported the bill to the House. The House concurred with the Committee of the Whole Barnwell, Bell, James Blair, Bouldin, Cambreleng, Camp
bell, Chandler, Claiborne, Clay, Coleman, Conner, Danin rejecting the proposcd amendments, and the bill was iel, Davenport, W. R. Davis, Desha, Draper, Foster, ordered to be read a third time to-morrow.
Gaither, Gordon, Hall, Harvey, Haynes, Hinds, Jarvis, $ JUDGE PECK.
Richard M. Johnson, Lamar, Lecompte, Lewis, Loyall, The hour of 12 having arrived, the House again re-Lumpkin, Lyon, Martin, Thomas Maxwell, McCoy, solved itself into a Committee of the whole, Mr. MARTIN Nuckolls, Overton, Patton, Pettis, Polk, Potter, Roane, in the chair, and proceeried to the Senate, to attend, be. Wiley Thompson, Trezvant, Tucker, Wickliffe, Wilde, fore the high court of impeachment, the trial of Judge Yancey:--51. Peck. Having returned, and reported progress,
So the bill was rejected. The House acljourned.
The House then resumed the consideration of the resoSATURDAY, JANUARY 29.
lution submitted by Mr. Harxes some days since, relative
to brown sugar. THE JUDICIARY.
Mr. WHITE, of Louisiana, said, that, when this subject The bill to repeal the 25th section of the judiciary act, before came up in order, it was laid over for a specific passed on the 4th September, 1789, coming up as the object. I myself, said Mr. W., moved its postponement, first business of the morning, the question being on the as well from my own conviction of the propriety of the motion of Mr. Buchanax to postpone the motion that the step, as at the instance and suggestion of some other genbill be read a second time to Tuesday next
tlemen. The object alluded to was, to let in a report on Mr. CRAWFORD rose, and, after a few remarks, de- the subject, which we were daily expecting to receive manded the previous question; which was the motion of from the Treasury Department, in compliance with a call Mr. DODDRIDGE that the bill be rejected.
from this House. That report, sir, bas since been sent